At a glance – The difference between weather and climate

Apr 23, 2024 | News

On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added “At a glance” section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a “bump” for our ask. This week features “The difference between weather and climate“. More will follow in the upcoming weeks. Please follow the Further Reading link at the bottom to read the full rebuttal and to join the discussion in the comment thread there.

At a glance

How do you go about weather forecasting by yourself? Study the computer models. With experience, you will become familiar with the art – for it takes human interpretation of model output to make the calls. That’s what weathermen do.

Forecast model output is freely available online and covers many parameters – pressure, temperature, rainfall and a myriad of others. Different models extend to different end-times – the Global Forecasting System (GFS) extends to T+ 384 hours or 16 days, for example. Pressure, or synoptic charts as they are known, portray the positions and subsequent developments of high and low pressure systems over large swathes of the planet.

Models are run several times a day. If you examine synoptic charts for the same run of several different models, you will see they all look very similar to start with. But if you then follow them through successive time-points – T+24, 48, 72 hours and so on, there will come a point where you start to notice slight and then larger differences between them. This divergence is where confidence in forecasting falls right away.

Forecasting – interpreting the GFS and other model output – is about working with uncertainty in the highly dynamic and to an extent chaotic medium that is our atmosphere. But with experience, you can do your own short term forecasting too, at least for the coming 3-5 days.

Longer-term weather forecasting a week or more in advance is about stating probabilities, not saying what will happen. Very different things. Serious amateur forecasters stick to the shorter, next few days bracket, if they want to avoid egg on their faces. There are a few out there who often make wild claims that usually fail to be borne out by reality. Unfortunately, sections of the more populist media happily quote them. It generates click-baity headlines.

Now, what about climate? Climate differs from weather because it includes certain highly deterministic drivers. Deterministic means they evolve independently of weather but can change the physical conditions on Earth from state A to state B. Cyclic variations in Earth’s orbit of the Sun, operating over tens of thousands of years, are a good example. They may only drive average planetary temperature changes of a few degrees Celsius, upwards or downwards. But with the help of climate feedbacks, that is enough to have caused past ice-ages – and to have gotten us out of them again.

Changes in the strength of Earth’s greenhouse effect are likewise deterministic, but to a far greater extent. They have forced past transitions from the Hothouse to the Icehouse climate state. Hothouse, by the way, is an ice-free Earth. Because we know how the greenhouse effect works, we can say with confidence that intensifying its strength will cause global temperatures to rise over centuries. What we cannot say is what weather will occur on a certain day at a certain place, decades from now. But there’s a handy saying to cover that: “climate trains the boxer, but the weather throws the punches”. (Deke Arndt, Climate Monitoring Branch Chief, NCDC, 2010)

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In case you’d like to explore more of our recently updated rebuttals, here are the links to all of them:

Myths with link to rebuttal
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Ice age predicted in the 1970s
sks.to/1970s

It hasn’t warmed since 1998
sks.to/1998

Antarctica is gaining ice
sks.to/antarctica

CRU emails suggest conspiracy
sks.to/climategate

What evidence is there for the hockey stick
sks.to/hockey

CO2 lags temperature
sks.to/lag

Climate’s changed before
sks.to/past

It’s the sun
sks.to/sun

Temperature records are unreliable
sks.to/temp

The greenhouse effect and the 2nd law of thermodynamics
sks.to/thermo

We’re heading into an ice age
sks.to/iceage

Positives and negatives of global warming
sks.to/impacts

The 97% consensus on global warming
sks.to/consensus

Global cooling – Is global warming still happening?
sks.to/cooling

How reliable are climate models?
sks.to/model

Can animals and plants adapt to global warming?
sks.to/species

What’s the link between cosmic rays and climate change?
sks.to/cosmic

Is Al Gore’s An Inconvenient Truth accurate?
sks.to/gore

Are glaciers growing or retreating?
sks.to/glacier

Ocean acidification: global warming’s evil twin
sks.to/acid

The human fingerprint in global warming
sks.to/agw

Empirical evidence that humans are causing global warming
sks.to/evidence

How do we know more CO2 is causing warming?
sks.to/greenhouse

Explaining how the water vapor greenhouse effect works
sks.to/vapor

The tricks employed by the flawed OISM Petition Project to cast doubt on the scientific consensus on climate change
sks.to/OISM

Is extreme weather caused by global warming?
sks.to/extreme

How substances in trace amounts can cause large effects
sks.to/trace

How much is sea level rising?
sks.to/sealevel

Is CO2 a pollutant?
sks.to/pollutant

Does cold weather disprove global warming?
sks.to/cold

Do volcanoes emit more CO2 than humans?
sks.to/volcano

How do human CO2 emissions compare to natural CO2 emissions?
sks.to/co2

Climate scientists could make more money in other careers
sks.to/money

How reliable are CO2 measurements?
sks.to/co2data

Do high levels of CO2 in the past contradict the warming effect of CO2?
sks.to/pastco2

What is the net feedback of clouds?
sks.to/cloud

Global warming vs climate change
sks.to/name

Is Mars warming?
sks.to/mars

How the IPCC is more likely to underestimate the climate response
sks.to/underestimat

How sensitive is our climate?
sks.to/sensitivity

Evidence for global warming
sks.to/warming

Has the greenhouse effect been falsified?
sks.to/falsify

Does breathing contribute to CO2 buildup in the atmosphere?
sks.to/breath

What is causing the increase in atmospheric CO2?
sks.to/CO2increase

What is methane’s contribution to global warming?
sks.to/methane

Plants cannot live on CO2 alone
sks.to/plant

Is the CO2 effect saturated?
sks.to/saturate

Greenhouse warming 100 times greater than waste heat
sks.to/waste

How will global warming affect polar bears?
sks.to/bear

The runaway greenhouse effect on Venus
sks.to/venus

What climate change is happening to other planets in the solar system?
sks.to/planets

Has Arctic sea ice returned to normal?
sks.to/arctic

Was Greenland really green in the past?
sks.to/green

Is Greenland gaining or losing ice?
sks.to/greenland

Human activity is driving retreat of Arctic sea ice
sks.to/arcticcycle

The albedo effect and global warming
sks.to/albedo

Does CO2 always correlate with temperature?
sks.to/correlate

Human fingerprints on climate change rule out natural cycles
sks.to/cycle

Global warming and the El Niño Southern Oscillation
sks.to/elnino

The Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) is not causing global warming
sks.to/pdo

Is the science settled?
sks.to/settled

The difference between weather and climate
sks.to/weather

 

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